Santorum flip flops on McCain »
Posted By ybdogsct 5 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsFew Republicans were more caustic when it came to John McCain's candidacy in the GOP presidential primary than former Sen. Rick Santorum. He castigated McCain on the issues - immigration, global warming, gay marriage and embryonic stem cell research, to name just a few. Today, however, Santorum makes the case in the Philadelphia Inquirer for why co
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
Not more than a few months ago, Republicans hurled insults at McCain for his betrayal of Republicans, particularly with regards to social conservative issues. But politics makes for strange bedfellows. Now that McCain has virtually tied up the Republican nomination, some of the most ardent anti-McCain bashers have flip flopped to become vocal McCain supporters.
This thread is for exposing the most egregious and the most laughable flip floppers.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080421/perlstein
"Back when the Republican presidential race was still competitive, the insults against John McCain from leading conservative voices were extravagant. Since then, they have had to reverse course. Such are the strange McCain contortions Republicans have been forcing themselves into in recent weeks. "
I invite anyone to help expose the hypocrisy of these flip floppers. Here, I'll start.
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
RICK SANTORUM BEFORE:
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics...
"On social conservative issues, you point to me one time John McCain ever took the floor of the United States Senate to talk about a social conservative issue. It never happened. I mean, this is a guy who says he believes in these things, but I can tell you, inside the room, when we were in these meetings, there was nobody who fought harder not to have these votes before the United States Senate on some of the most important social conservative issues, whether it's marriage or abortion or the like. He always fought against us to even bring them up, because he was uncomfortable voting for them.
McCain looks at the world through the eyes of the New York Times editorial board. If you're a Republican, if you're a Republican in the broadest sense, there is only one place to go right now and that's Mitt Romney."
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
RICK SANTORUM AFTER:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/17966064...
"Anyone who has heard me talk about the presidential race over the last few months knows that I've had, shall we say, some serious reservations about John McCain's candidacy.
McCain is clearly the candidate with the capacity, judgment, experience and will to confront America's enemies. And, yes, McCain has been a thorn in the side of many of us who supported important appropriations earmarks for our states. But he's always objected with principled consistency."
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
MITT ROMNEY BEFORE:
http://newsasgossip.blogspot.com/2008/02/romney...
"Mere weeks after calling John McCain dishonest, liberal and unworthy of the Republican nomination, Mitt Romney has once again changed positions."
MITT ROMNEY AFTER:
"In these times, what we need is someone dishonest, liberal, and unworthy enough to succeed the great President George W. Bush, which is why I am endorsing John McCain for President."
LOL
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"McCain supports amnesty for illegal aliens, was behind the Gang of 14, is a gun grabber, opposed the Bush tax cuts, ran roughshod over the Constitution with McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform, opposes a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, was rumored to be considering switching parties multiple times, talked with John Kerry about being his VP, lines up with the global warming alarmists, wants to close Gitmo, wants to coddle captured terrorists."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"You can feel secure in voting FOR Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"I predict that McCain will lose a few points after his loss Tues. night and Fred will gain a few more."
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
ALPHAGNOSIS AGAIN:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"In other words, we're talking about a man who could fairly be called a Rockefeller Republican, a Country Club Republican, a RINO, or just a toweringly arrogant, out of touch D.C. insider who seems to assume that any position he takes is right solely because he happens to hold it. However, what John McCain cannot fairly be called is a conservative.
If John McCain becomes the Republican Party's nominee, you have to think conservatives will become utterly despondent."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"Or how about McLame? "
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/14/...
"By any reasonable definition, McCain's recipe constitutes amnesty. It allows nearly all illegal aliens to remain permanently in America."
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not2needy5 months, 3 weeks ago
You're so right on with this, and to be completely honest with you, i couldn't believe how the people on Propeller flipped around so fast in order to justify McCain, just the way Santorum has.
My self formed opinion is, they will vote for anyone as long as there is an R beside their name rather than cross a party line. I know a lot of cons, and crossing a party line is NOT an option.
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
MORE ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
"Hey did yall hear this? lol, too funny:
McCain 'is the classic opportunist--he's always reaching for attention. Other POWs won't even sit at the same table with him.
Perot's real problem with McCain is that he believes the senator hushed up evidence that live POWs were left behind in Vietnam and transferred to the Soviet Union for human experimentation. Perot claims, 'McCain was adamant about shutting down anything to do with recovering POWs.'
lmao, Perot is swiftboating John McCain."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/14/...
"McCain has one of the worst grades of any Republican Senator concerning immigration. His overall career and recent Americans for Better Immigration grades are both Ds. On amnesty, he earns F. His congressional record on immigration ABI calls "abysmal."
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Goppy5 months, 3 weeks ago
One thing you gotta be clear bout AlphaGnosis, she consistently picks the rong candidate.
First it was Giuliani. (Actually, first it was GW from when she called herself luvmyprez).
Then it was Thompson.
Then it was Romney. ...
Now, of course, its yet another loser ... our Johnny McCain. Or as aniokeley used to call him ... the traitor. (nice, eh)
All these air-balls from her is why I started to callin her OMEGA-Gnosis. I dint think she could, in good conscience have her avatar reference FIRST-knowledge.
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mntnman4445 months, 3 weeks ago
ybdogsct
LMAO!!!....excellent record of the cons statements...before they caved on their "concrete principles".
Ain't propeller great?
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
MORE ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/10/...
"McCain's baggage: To assuage his guilt over the "Keating 5" scandal, the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold bill was proposed and is now law.
And then there was the infamous Gang of 14 to prevent the Senate from reversing the unconstitutional practice (rule) of requiring 60 votes for approval of court nominees.
Oh, and the hundreds of appearances on the Sunday TV shows trashing fellow Republicans, not voting for Bush's tax cuts, and the most egregious of all, the arrogance of trying to ram a back room immigration/amnesty deal down our throats.
A President McCain would sign any immigration bill the Democrat Congress passes, regardless of what he says in the campaign."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/10/...
"I know he's 71 years old but can he talk any sloooower? Spit it out, John!"
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ybdogsct4 months ago
MORE ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://tech.propeller.com/story/2007/01/11/digg...
10 January, 2007, 04:21 PM
ALPHAGNOSIS: "Yes, I am the artist formerly known as luvmyprez."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/02/13/...
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ybdogsct3 months, 1 week ago
MORE ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
ALPHAGNOSIS: "McCain supports amnesty for illegal aliens, was behind the Gang of 14, is a gun grabber, opposed the Bush tax cuts, ran roughshod over the Constitution with McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform, opposes a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, was rumored to be considering switching parties multiple times, talked with John Kerry about being his Vice-President, lines up with the global warming alarmists, wants to close Gitmo, wants to coddle captured terrorists -- you can go on and on with this."
HDHEHN: "$100 says AlphaGnosis will still vote for McCain if McCain wins the R nomination. And running "roughshod over the Constitution" is nothing new for you and the Bush ilk."
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ybdogsct3 months, 1 week ago
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
ALPHAGNOSIS: "In other words, we're talking about a man who could fairly be called a Rockefeller Republican, a Country Club Republican, a RINO, or just a toweringly arrogant, out of touch D.C. insider who seems to assume that any position he takes is right solely because he happens to hold it. However, what John McCain cannot fairly be called is a conservative.
If John McCain becomes the Republican Party's nominee, you have to think conservatives will become utterly despondent."
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ybdogsct3 months, 1 week ago
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/16/...
TRUZEEKER: "new anti-campaign slogan..."McCain the Insane"
ALPHAGNOSIS: "How about McLame?"
BRONXBOMBER: "or "McShame" for that matter..."
ZIEGFELDGIRL: "..McInane? That's the word that came to mind when I heard his last speech."
ALPHAGNOSIS: "You actually sat through it? I can't remember if it was him or me that kept dozing off."
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ybdogsct3 months, 1 week ago
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/19/...
ALPHAGNOSIS: "Tell it sister. I cannot believe that McCain would be our party's nomination after all the bustin' hump we did to stop the passage of his shabby amnesty immigration bill."
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
MORE ALPHAGNOSIS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/10/...
"If I had to listen to John speak for four long years, I would go absolutely bonkers."
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quackpot5 months, 3 weeks ago
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flyonthewallzz5 months, 3 weeks ago
I have been hearing about the sharp elbow jabs that will come up when we get to the general election.
There has been a lot of talk that Obama can not play basketball with the big boys.
The litany of his faults keeps repeating itself.
There will be no need (and I think it would be wrong) to "Swiftboat" McCain and I think Obama will nip any attempts in the bud.
There is a plethora of elbow stabs directed at McCain by his own party. No need to reach back to when he was 8 years old. A 10 year window would provide a new quote every day attributed to the heroes of the Republican party.
It hardly seems fair.
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
ANIOKLY:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/13/...
"McCain won one primary. So did Huckabee, and soon Romney will win Michigan. It means nothing."
DANMLIBERALS:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/21/...
"I think Mccain has a hard time sipping tea since he had his arms broken backwards in Vietnam."
AMAZED:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/02/21/...
"you guys should give McCain a pass -- after all, he generally supports the liberal social agenda"
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not2needy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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MacR5 months, 3 weeks ago
He would have never gotten this far. Now if you were talking about Powell or Rice they might have gotten this far. But I assure you Obama would never have. But then again I am still not sure how in the hell McCain got this far. So it might have happen.
None Of Above '08
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SwampFox-82nd5 months, 3 weeks ago
If McCain chooses to say anything to win the presidency, he willfully turned his back upon every vet who served! Since when did this country back torturers and liars? Just who the "Flock" came up with this garbage you call "patriotism?"
When I served, had anybody...ANY DAMNED MAN told me to torture another, we had a simply response. Any of you so-called Americans ever hear of "Zippo?" That was a grunts way to keep the peace within the ranks! I won't bother you to define "Zippin'," but bet your sweet ass that "mark" would be sent home post haste in a damned bodybag. IF we want to be called "civilized," throw those bottom-feeders in hell and close the door!
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Natureboy5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Locky125 months, 3 weeks ago
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
LOCKY12:
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2007/11/01/...
"I think Duncan Hunter is best candidate of the bunch but where is he?"
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/10/...
"John McCain would guarantee himself the nomination and the White House if he ran on the platform that he'll retire after one term."
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
LOCKY12
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/23/...
"If John McCain gets into office, you libs will get everything you want anyway...You're right. John McCain is a tool. But dems will find McCain to be a useful idiot on many things they want."
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Nixie5 months, 3 weeks ago
Okay ybdogsct, now where are the links providing the hypocracy? We didn't want McCain, but now we have him, just like a lot of you dems don't want Obama, or you don't want Hillary. But when one or the other is named the candidate, you are going to rally around the official Democratic Candidate, because you feel a Dem will do a better job than a Rep. And we believe the opposite. So while McCain may not be who we want, we know he is infinitely better than the 4th Grade Class President or the Bitter Old Crone your party has dregged up for you to vote for.
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ybdogsct5 months, 3 weeks ago
There's quite a profound distinction. The disagreement between Democrats (Obama vs. Hillary) PALES in comparison to the viciousness with which McCain was disowned by his own party--not just this year, but also during the 2000 primaries. McCain's patriotism, competence, sanity, and even marital fidelity were called into question.
The anti-McCain muckraking was so intense that Republican leaders ( Santorum, Romney, etc.) and commentators (Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc.) openly admitted that McCain was "not just bad for the Republican Party; he was bad for America as well" -- that they would rather see a Democratic CIC than a McCain presidency.
Now these VERY SAME Republicans openly embrace McCain as if they had supported him all along. Not only that, they openly ridicule Democrats for the conflict within the Democratic Party (between Obama and Hillary), yet ignore how much greater the conflict within the Republican Party (anti-McCain vs. pro-McCain) was.
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Nixie5 months, 3 weeks ago
"Now these VERY SAME Republicans openly embrace McCain as if they had supported him all along."
I don't think you are right about that. I've seen plenty of comments by many of the people you quoted, saying they are still disappointed they got stuck with McCain. But he's so much better than what the Dems put up. If your options are all bad, you pick the best of the worst. Otherwise you end up with the worst of the worst. McCain will do just fine in November. We will begrudgingly vote for him knowing that at least we are saving the country from the horror of a Hillary or Obama presidency.
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mntnman4445 months, 3 weeks ago
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MacR5 months, 3 weeks ago
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ETproductions5 months, 3 weeks ago
Bush approval rating by the American people Oct, 1, 2001 -- 90%
Bush approval rating by the American people today -- 28%
The only thing the American people remain constant on is that flip-floopers are TERRIBLE.
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walden35 months, 3 weeks ago
Why is Santorum even relevant? The guy cheated the taxpayers into paying for private school for his kids, equates homosexuality with "man on dog" sex, was wrong about Terry Schiavo and worst of all believes that the little kids of Boston who were raped by their priests deserved it because of the Librul leanings of the northeast.
The guy is like some crazy old uncle who lives in the attic, or is that McCain.
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not2needy5 months, 3 weeks ago
Best of all, check out the people who sunk this article! ROFLMAO!!
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digthepast5 months, 3 weeks ago

